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How Much Money Can You Make Bitcoin Mining

Lately I've been investigating bitcoin mining as a source of passive income. I've decided that this is very different from trying to make money by publishing online content.

To have a chance of earning anything at all, it requires a fairly big initial investment. Most people are now familiar with bitcoins, even if they've never used them, as the new virtual currency.

It is the first currency to be controlled by a cryptographic protocol rather than a central bank. Basically you pay for something by sending BTC from a virtual wallet in your computer to the merchant's computer.

So how can you make money from this? Well, theoretically, your computer can become a node in the network that processes and verifies the transactions. With every blockchain that is processed a new block of 25 coins, worth around $2500 at today's prices, is created. This is known as bitcoin mining. The mining difficulty has increased 50x since I wrote this article. Today it stands at 1.4 billion. This means that if my pool found a block once a day in July, it now takes over a month.

This makes mining with anything but the most powerful ASICs completely pointless. The price of BTC has skyrocketed (close to $1000 today), however it doesn't quite make up for the rise in difficulty. According to the profit calculator mining at 5 GH/s will get you $1.50 a day. But check for yourself because it can change dramatically. If you want to get into crypto currencies, you might want to consider Litecoin rather than Bitcoins. Find out all about it. Technically all you need to become a node in the network, and to start printing your own virtual mone,y is a computer with internet access.

You can download a free wallet to your computer, one of several free miner programs, and join in. Sounds great doesn't it? The problem is that the computer power required is phenomenal. If you work by yourself, with only a personal computer, it might be years before you see your first block.

For this reason most miners join a pool, where the work and rewards are shared. In a pool, when a block is solved and new coins created, you will only get a tiny fraction of a coin.

But usually several blocks are solved in a day. The person running the pool takes a small percentage as a fee (say 3%), but you get (almost) instant gratification. One important aspect of mining is that the difficulty of solving the blocks increases with time. So can you make money bitcoin mining with a personal computer? It does depend on how good your PC is. Strangely enough the processing needed for BTC mining is much better done by a graphics card (GPU), rather than a CPU. So unless you have a gaming computer with a good dedicated graphics card, well you can do it, but you will mine so little that it will hardly make a difference.

Where can I find out how much Bitcoin will I mine. How much Bitcoin will I mine right now with hardware X? You get 0.01 BTC per day. If you're solo mining. Strangely enough the processing needed for BTC mining is much better done by a. How much computing power will be needed to mine 1 bitcoin per day or even half.

There are two GPU manufacturers that provide the chips for all graphic cards, Ati Radeon and Nvidia. It turns out that Radeon cards are much better at bit mining than Nvidia cards. Something to do with the cards' architecture that doesn't really make a difference in rendering graphics in games, but makes a huge difference in mining. I've decided to try bitcoin mining with my gaming PC, which unfortunately has an Nvidia card (GTX 660Ti) if you are interested.

The efficiency of your setup is expressed in megahash per second (Mh/s). My card appears to work at around 100 Mh/s. I've had some teething problems with the client (I keep being thrown out of the pool) so I have not mined for a full 24 hours, but I've managed to generate 0.002BTC.

That is worth about 20 cents. I suspect that a full 24 hours of mining would yield closer to 30 cents. Also this is very variable, when mining as a pool, which has a collective power of 3000 Gh/s, we sometimes hit the payload in 10 hours, if we are unlucky, and sometimes in less than an hour. Over time it this evens out. But remember the increased electricity used by heavily using your graphics card full time. Also the wear and tear on a card probably means it will not last as long as it normally would. It is possible that mining with my setup will lose me money rather than earn it.

You might be able to do 3-5x better with a Radeon card. Even better if your PC has two cards running in crossfire mode. But honestly it hardly seems worth the trouble. Edit: Jan 2014, it is definitely not worth it now.

The difficulty is 50x what it was in the summer! On the other hand, there is the possiblity of buying an ASIC (application-specific integrated circuit), a piece of electronics, dedicated to bitcoin mining, that you connect to your computer. The smallest of the ones now being produced by Butterfly Labs works at 5Gh/s (That's 500 times better than my card). They are also developing 50 Gh/s ASICs.

According to a new post from the manufacturer, the miners will draw 5W per Gh/s that they hash. For comparison a 42' LCD TV is rated at about 200W. So the 5Gh/s Jalapeno miner will use 0.6 Kilo watt hours per day, while the 50GH/s big boy will use 3 kWh. If you pay 15 cents for a Kwh, operating the biggest ASIC miner will add about $10 to your monthly electricity bill.

The BTC mining profitability calculatorestimates that you will earn $17 a day with the 5Gh/s Jalapeno ASIC, and $170 with the 50Gh/s ASIC, after factoring in electricity usage. 2013: Now the estimate is $3 for a Jalape単o and $30 for the 50Gh/s ASIC.] They are not cheap, the 50GH/s one comes at $2,500. However, according to the calculator, it would 'pay for itself' in 15 days. And then you are basically printing money.

The operation requires no more effort than signing in to an exchange once in a while to sell the coins that you've mined. Edit Jan 2014: It is hardly worth mining with my 5Gh/s Jalape単o now, I reckon I'm making only a bit over a dollar a day (unless the price of BTC goes up even more that is). It is probably as profitable to mine with the 50Gh/s ButterflyLabs single now, as it was with the Jalape単o in the summer (around $15 a day). Incidentally Butterfly Labs are not the only ASIC manufacturers. In fact the other company 'Avalon' managed to produce and sell ASICs earlier this year.

However they only sell batches of the miners, and only to people on the waiting list, so if you want to buy from them now, you will not get your device immediately. There is also the option of getting the little Block Erupter USB ASICS, which do 336 Mh/s. I have 6 of these mining right now, they use little electricity and don't slow down your computer, so are superior to a graphics card. Looking at it like this, buying the equipment and becoming a virtual money miner seems like a no-brainer. However, there is a catch, of course there is, otherwise I wouldn't be telling you about this.

At the moment you can't just go online and buy these lovely miraculous money making machines. When Butterfly Labs first got into producing them, they raised the money from pre-orders. People paid up to be the first to get the miners, and the money was used to develop and make them. But of course there were hitches and delays along the way. The bottom line is that the smallest Jalapenos have just started to be shipped to the people who placed orders months ago. Apparently by now (July 2013), they have caught up with orders paid for at the beginning of November last year.

Technically shipment of the bigger miners has started, but they've been shipping the Singles (50 GH/s) from the first day of pre-orders, 23rd June 2012, the whole months, and with the Little Singles (25Gh/s) they have only reached 24th June pre-orders. I have seen people predicting that orders placed now, will not be fulfilled till next year. Although one would hope that now that they've started shipping the smaller ones, the path forward will be smoother and they will be able to produce them at a decent rate. This is not just a problem of delaying the fabulous earnings. Remember that the difficulty of mining increases with time.

So the supermachine that can get you 1.6 BTC per day now, will produce significantly less in a year's time. That might seem like an acceptable risk, if you could get your hands on them right now, since they should pay for themselves within a couple of weeks. Unless you are very unlucky and the crypto-currency crashes right after you buy them, you should be ok. But if you have to part with a large sum of money now, and not start earning for months to come, the risk is obviously much more significant.

Also bitcoin mining cannot go on forever. A limit is set into the system, with the block size being halved every 4 years, so the increase in total currency is limited.

In a few year's time there will be far fewer new coins generated than there are now. There is always the inherent risk of dealing with bitcoins, whose price is very volatile. Earlier this year it rose to the insane heights of $260, then in April fell to $50. It seems to have stabilised in the last few weeks at around the $100 mark. Since their supply is strictly limited by the algorithm, it is hoped that if they become used by more people their price will rise. But it is equally possible that it will fall, or they will become completely worthless in a few months time. Should bitcoins crash, there will be no IMF rescue, and no meetings of G8 leaders trying to save the currency.

Having said that, there are a lot of investors who are hoarding BTCs counting on their price rising in the future. These people are usually taking much bigger risks than people spending $300-$2500 on an asic. On the other hand, if you want to invest some money in the hope that bitcoins will be worth more in the future, you could just buy coins on an exchange, rather than mining them. Now there is a way of getting the Jalapeno, and sometimes even the bigger ASIC faster. Some people who are on the waiting list already, are selling them on eBay.

Or to be more precise, they are selling their place in the queue. You pay the money now (and obviously you pay more than if you bought it straight from Butterfly Labs, but the seller doesn't actually have the miner in his possession yet. They will ship the item as soon as it is shipped to them by the manufacturer. Can You Make Money From Vertcoin VTC Mining. It does mean, however, that you will get your (virtual) money printing equipment faster than if you place the order with a manufacturer. At least with the Jalapenos now shipping you should not have to wait too long for your order.

One of the problems of people getting these very efficient miners is that the difficulty level is likely to rise quickly once they join the network, since the protocol is set up to produce a new block of 25 coins about every 10 minutes. This will make BTC mining much less efficient. On the other hand there is the possibility that as mining using simpler devices becomes far less profitable, people without ASICs are going to stop doing it. Presumably most of the people doing it don't use these expensive and hard to get devices. There are other risks of buying on eBay. Some offers are apparently fraudulent.

One notable eBay auction involved somebody buying an Avalon ASIC worth $1500 for over $20,000! 5 Weeks ago I mentioned a way to get free Bitcoin and since then the price shot from $10K a Bitcoin to $19K and now back down to about $13K. I know about 90 people followed my link and advice (you can see it below in the comments) and even in 5 weeks, a few of them managed to grab free Bitcoin AND cash in and make about $10 of profit. You can still grab free Bitcoin and hope for the next big rise in value by grabbing them here: but the reality is that you need to get in quickly and grab them fast while the value is low, to allow the value to rise and your free bitcoins to be worth so much more.

Now everyone is talking about Ripple (XRP) which just before Xmas was worth $0.34 a Ripple, and in less than 2 weeks has shot up to $3 a Ripple. And they reckon it could be worth $300 a Ripple by next Xmas, so obviously it would be ideal to grab as much Ripple as possible now and wait for 12 months to make big profits? But did you know, like Bitcoin, you can get them FREE and right now, when value is low is the ideal time to grab as much as you can before it is too late. I just grab free Ripple (XRP) from a site like: Might not be worth much today but grab plenty of them this year and wait 2 or 3 years until the value rises and it could be worth hundreds or even thousands.

Especially as experts are saying that Ripple will actually grow bigger than Bitcoin, especially as Banks are already associated with it and have accepted this little known currency and so with the banks on board (they dislike Bitcoin) it has much greater chance of taking off and raising in high value. Okay, it's not going to make you millions like it could by investing in them, but if you want to play around and learn Bitcoin or Ripple without spending real money, it can certainly pay for a holiday in a year or two if it does rise, and if the bubble bursts and it flops. You lost nothing! There is a very simple way of earning free bitcoin now without doing the Mining yourself.

You can earn a small fraction of Bitcoin (called Satoshi) every hour by quick sign up at this link: You only need a Bitcoin Wallet address to have payments sent, and then click a single button once every hour to receive a few Satoshi (about 50 - 70 Satoshi is worth $0.01 at the moment). It rolls a random number on the button press, between 1 - 10,000 and if it lands on 1- 9885 you receive around 20-30 Satoshi but if you land on higher than 9885 you get much bigger payouts, as many as 2,000,000 satoshi. Thanks for commenting just-about. Until recently I'd vaguely heard about bitcoin, but never really paid attention to it, and certainly didn't know that you could (potentially) make money mining it. I also found the whole subject pretty fascinating.

I couldn't really put all the information about how the system works in the hub. I strongly recommend reading more on this subject. From a practical point of view, a crypto currency is great in many ways. The problem is its great instability, I guess. I guess all online banks (with the possible exception of bitcoin) are vulnerable to hacking.

It happens all too frequently to established banks. They find a way to cover the cost of fraud (LIBOR fixing, PPI mis-selling or ripping-off small businesses).

I know that Zurker employs pentesters. The advantage that Zurker has is that it controls the Zen, so if somebody can demonstrate that they have been defrauded, then Zurker can just replace the stolen Zen. When somebody transfers Zen to your account at Zurker you can, with a few clicks, verify that your account has received them. Similarly if somebody mints a Zen coin, you can 'deposit' the coin and check that it's valid. When I refer to criminals (I wrote the articles in Zentral but not Preferzen), I don't mean the people using malware. I mean the criminals that use bitcoins to launder money, to trade in drugs and worse.

Ok I've read the Zen faq. It seems to me that it is 'verified' by a central authority rather than cryptography.

To me it seems like it might lead to a major security problem. As in if the central authority is attacked by hackers. If this hasn't happened yet, it might be because the Zen is simply not important enough.

The bitcoin protocol is peer to peer. The 'ledger' of transactions is on the computer of anybody who uses it. To 'cheat' the system, you would need to change the data on most peoples' computers (or for the majority users who probably number in the millions to be complicit on the crime). I think this gives the bitcoin a lot of security.

I also see that when you refer to criminals you mean the people using malware. This is obviously bad, but it is not terrible.

Basically what these people do is subvert the victims' computers to mine for them. The victim provides the electricity and their computer hardware, the criminal gets the bitcoins. This is in a way similar to the malware that adds text link ads to websites that don't use them on victims' computers, the malware authors earn from the ads, rather than the site owners. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending malware spreaders. But as criminals go they are not exactly equal to drug dealers, the mafia etc. Who I think might be liking bitcoin because of its anonymity. Yep I've just been reading your articles on the site you linked it.

But I have to say that as you are obviously invested in Zurker (I think I joined it but haven't done anything with my account, might be much better than other social media, but all my friends are on FB, I don' t think I could move em, and a social network without people you know is not really all that useful). I would be interested to know how the Zen is secured, in other words how do you make sure it isn't faked. And if you take part in a transaction with Zens how do you prevent the 'double use' problems.

I think in Satoshi's original paper about the bitcoin protocol, the need for all the processing is I believe, exactly to prevent that problem. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the question is this: a bit coin is basically a string of code. When you pay for something with your BTC, the code is transferred to another person, but what is there to stop you from using that BTC again.

The answer is that with every transaction the code gets changed, in a way that requires a lot of processing power, and the peer-to-peer network lets everybody's wallet know that the old bit of code is no longer valid. What is Zen's solution to this? How can I know that the Zen you are offering me in payment is a real Zen? If there is a central body controlling the currency, how do we know we can trust them? As to who the bitcoin miners are, well they could be anybody.

Yep some of them can be criminals, but as long as they are not the majority, their block chains will not be accepted by the network (from scanning Satoshi's original paper, he says that as long as the majority of the network are honestly, and not trying to attack it, it is secure). Anyway I guess the answer to a lot of my questions are to be found in the second link you posted. I will now go and read it. You might be right.

However, I wonder if any digital currency, by it's very unregulated, anonymous nature, wouldn't be used by criminals. I just think that either you have institutions through which the transactions go, i.e.

Banks, so it is difficult for criminals to use the money without being traced, or you have a currency without central control, which is great for criminal activity. Not really seeing how you can have an in between state. The electricity use worries me. The fact is that if you're using cryptography to control the currency, you have to make it need a lot of processing power to 'encode', otherwise anybody could 'make money' on their iPhones. As I understand it, what makes bitcoin 'real', is that the effort to fake it is equal to the effort required to make it. In a way you can't fake it, its value lies in the processing power to make it.

If you're willing to put in the processing power involved, you are not printing fake money, you are making the currency. I am not disagreeing with your points, I'm just saying that I'm not sure you can have a digital currency that is independent of bankers, that wouldn't have these problems.

Maybe the bitcoin is the best that is possible. Maybe the whole system just can't work.

Which would be a pity. I guess that 'normal' currencies do have some environmental impact but you might have hoped that a digital currency, by its very nature, would have a minimal impact and not depend on vast processing power.

I agree that traditional banks have been a disaster. I'm very much in favor of a universal digital currency so that we can all avoid banks, bankers, transaction fees and currency risks.

It's unfortunate that the first digital currency to capture the media's attention was the Bitcoin which (for all the reasons I mentioned above) is of no practical use to ordinary members of the public or businesses. Bitcoin's volatility, its association with criminality and its lack of regulation have delayed the digital currency revolution which will see the overthrow of conventional banking. Perhaps Bitcoin's value will remain high until an alternative, practical digital currency knocks it off its pedestal.

Hi Jason, I agree with some of your points. For one thing using up the electricity to make the currency is truly bad for the environment, and i think it is a really bad by-product of the protocol which aims to keep the increase in bitcoins steady. On the other hand, do 'normal' currencies not have an environmental impact, I don't know.

I also think that the fact that it is used by criminal elements (because it is hard, although apparently not impossible, to trace the transactions) is a bad by-product. On the other hand, seeing how banks have messed up the world economy, for which ordinary people are suffering, and how the Fed, various national financial authorities or central banks, did nothing to prevent the 2008 crash. I am not sure that fiat currencies are doing so well. I mean look at the euro.

Whether bitcoin prices are a bubble that will burst destroying its value, or whether its use will become widespread and prices will hold, is the big question. In think it could go either way.

Collegedad, that is an interesting question, and I'm afraid I don't have an answer, I'm not really sure what the legal definition of a currency is, or US law. I guess it is not a 'fiat currency', whatever that is exactly. I suppose it could be described as a token system (although really isn't paper money just a token system really). It's creator described it as 'a peer-to-peer electronic cash system'. I think a Forbes journalist described bitcoins as more similar to rare stamp collecting, rather than currency.

I think he was talking more about investors hoarding the coins, hoping that their value will skyrocket at one point There is no doubt that it is legal. It is also being taken seriously by the official bodies.

Apparently this year anti-money laundering regulations were extended to BTC transactions. How To Mine For Experience Points XP Cash.

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The funds already donated will be spent on some sort of advertising, as intended. As of now, 7 BTC was spent out of 4. If you have ideas for the remaining BTC,. When people start their adventure with Bitcoin, they often go through a small gold fever with the concept of mining (I would know, that's how I started;) ). Here is a small guide to answer your eternal question 'will I make money with it?'

: First of all, lets talk about (click on the link for a long and useful list). You won't make money mining bitcoins unless you either have a really high-end GPU from ATI, an FPGA or an ASIC. That's the short answer. Having a decent CPU can be used for, which can be a small income in itself, but we are here to talk about Bitcoin. To see whether you will earn any money, you need to: • cost of your hardware (cost of buying an ASIC, GPUs, motherboards, power supplies, etc.) • how fast can it hash (mega hashes per second). This you can get from your • how much power does it consume (again, ) • your cost of electricity (check with your power company) And then there are two magical variables that will either make it all work out, or be doomed for failure: * difficulty - it is automatically filled in by the calculator, but for long-term mining (more than a few weeks), you want to be a pessimist.

Multiply the value by 10 for predictions over a few months or 100 for a year or two (it will rise steeply soon) * bitcoin price - also filled by the calculator - it might go up or down in the future, affecting your bottom line. It will probably increase in the long run, but lets be pessimistic and lower that to $10-$20 to make sure we are earning money no matter what Having all your hard data and your guesses on the last two variables, you put it all into the and see what you get. You will get your earnings in BTC and dollars, as well as summary of your costs and when you will brake even, and what will your net income be over your investment period. Most likely you won't be earning money with Bitcoin mining, and that's okay - mining has become a very specialised process. If you want to invest money into new ASICs, you might be able to turn a tidy profit. TLDR: Use to check everything.

ASICs may earn you money, GPUs won't anymore. Even the mining calculators will fool people who are very new. The difficulty is about to skyrocket, meaning GPU/FPGA hw purchased now will never break even (vs a direct BTC investment, at least.) There is a significant barrier to entry with ASICs - only 1 company is accepting orders and they're almost 5 months behind their delivery schedule, and continue to delay it. There is no guarantee they will ever have a working product, being so far behind certainly makes ordering a risk. Bottom line is that trying to get into mining is a losing proposition for newbies. OTOH, if you decide to make a sizable direct investment, buying an ASICs machine is a good way to further secure that investment, by distributing the network power and making it more secure.

However, since you can currently only 'pre-order' them, that's not yet a safe option.best to wait until these companies are actually delivering. Correct, it's possible. It's profitable, however, in the same way that buying lottery tickets or playing slots is profitable. There's the chance for a big payoff with low investment, but it's much more likely that you'll receive nothing at all. I'm still brand new too, so I might be misunderstanding something as well, but when people talk about earning 0.08 BTC a day or whatever, they're part of a mining pool that combines the efforts of a bunch of different people and pays out to members based on their contributions. Lower max, but much more consistent.

Can you explain why the hardware will degrade faster if it is continuously mining? I ask because I've recently begun to look into Bitcoin mining with my current gaming comp, and I don't see how my 7850 could be degrading faster. It's currently overclocked, mining whenever I am not playing games, reaching ~305MHash/s. It only reaches temperatures of 54C, and my PSU is more than enough for my rig.

Under these circumstances, I'm certain the only way it could degrade would be from continuous use. However, I don't know why it would even degrade from this, so an explanation would be fantastic.

TIL about silicon degradation: Electrons in one transistor are not supposed to be able to reach other transistors in normal circumstances, but according to the principle of quantum tunnelling, an electron can actually escape from an infinitely deep energy well; it just does not happen that often. A transistor is made up of positively and negatively doped silicon around un-doped silicon.

Every now and again, through chance alone, an electron can tunnel away from the conductive silicon keeping it in place. Usually it will only burrow in a couple of atoms and then return, though sometimes it can travel into another adjacent transistor. This does not normally cause a problem, because you need a lot of stray electrons to cause an error in how the gate is read. The problems start to occur when an electron attaches itself to one of the silicon atoms in the un-doped section of the silicon, or knocks another electron out of its orbit. This is known as silicon degradation, and over time, usually measured in years, a path is formed by the damage caused by these tunnelling electrons between two gates.

Electrons can then flow across the junction freely, causing it to malfunction, and the value be misread by the computer, resulting in an error. The more energy an electron has, the more likely it is to tunnel, which is why if your CPU is running hot, or has a considerably higher voltage going through it, electrons can tunnel through far more easily. All CPU’s are built so that there is an inbuilt resistance to quantum tunnelling for an extended period of time, but when you overclock your CPU, that period is reduced. If you overclock or over-volt the chip too much, you can actually physically destroy the silicon lattice of gates within a processor. Generally hardware wears down with use. Since you will be mining at full speed for a long period of time, you will wear down your fans and since the whole system will be working at high temperature, it has a higher chance of breaking sooner.

I am not entirely sure how it happens on the level of integrated circuits, but since we are talking really tiny architecture, anything goes. I guess it would be best if you asked this question in a more specialised place - I'm not a hardware expert.